Tiananmen Square

I am a couple of days behind. The 17th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square protest was on June 4th. Don't ever lose sight of the freedom you have. Things may not be the way or how you want them to be, but then again you could be one of the people in the video below.

China may be slowly making its way into the 21st century, but don't fool yourself into thinking that everything is hunky dory today.


Anonymous said...

I still remeber seeing that on the news. I still get chills when I see it. The audaucity and the courage it must have taken.

Why our government didn't do more to help all those brave souls at Tiananmen Square when the Chinese government started slaughtering them I'll never understand.

Bonnie B said...

This is an event that still haunts me-- courage, cruely mankinds inhumanity and passionate dreams

Anonymous said...

Let's do a reality check on what you think really happened...

I'd like to offer couple more references in addition to PBS Frontline's "The Tank Man", where it reported the fact students were allowed to leave peacefully once the troops arrived, and Chinese government did investigate this, and release casualty figure of 240 some dead (incidentally in-line with our own NSA intel estimate.)

An article by Gregory Clark on pack journalism:


"the so-called massacre was in fact a mini civil war as irate Beijing citizens sought to stop initially unarmed soldiers sent to remove students who had been demonstrating freely in the square for weeks. When the soldiers finally reached the square there was no massacre."

An article by Columbia Journal Review on passive press:


"as far as can be determined from the available evidence, no one died that night in Tiananmen Square.
Hundreds of people, most of them workers and passersby, did die that night, but in a different place and under different circumstances."

[Just for reference, throwing molotov cocktail at riot police is a crime in US.]

Jack Steiner said...


I wish that they had. It was a hell of a thing.


I understand.


Let's do a reality check on your comment. If you are going to play the pompous know-it-all you should at least be able to give your name.

But you didn't do that. That suggests that perhaps you are less than secure in your sources here. Rather curious.

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Jack Steiner said...

JS, if you don't allow anon comment don't enbale it. BTW here's my blogger profile.

I allow it, but it doesn't mean that I won't comment on those who do not identify themselves. It is not that hard to type in a URL or some sort of ID.

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