The premise is rather simple, are the two sides playing by the same set of rules. It is a very important determination to make because if the rules are understood it becomes easier to determine whether you have been successful in meeting your objectives. Whereas a lack of mutually agreed upon rules is far more difficult.
For example a blogger recently said (my apologies I don't remember who) that they preferred the Cold War to fighting Al-Qaeda because they believed that the U.S.S.R. and the U.S. could abide by the concept of Mutually Assured Destruction (M.A.D.) and therefore were both less likely to use WMDs, as opposed to AQ whom they are sure would do so without hesitation.
So the question is are we all listening to Hoyle or are there multiple rules being used. My personal take is that we are not all using the same chessboard and I think that this is problematic.
For the sake of this example let's use the aforementioned Pipes' column.
"Are Israel's critics correct? Does the "occupation" of the West Bank and Gaza cause the Palestinian Arabs' anti-Semitism, their suicide factories, and their terrorism? And is it true these horrors will end only when Israeli civilians and troops leave the territories?This is very troubling but not totally unforeseen. People will almost always spin events to meet their preferred point-of-view. And when you have players jockeying for political power and position it is expected that they will try and claim a victory whenever and wherever possible.The answer is coming soon. Starting August 15, the Israeli government will evict about 8,000 Israelis from Gaza and turn their land over to the Palestinian Authority. In addition to being a unique event in modern history (no other democracy has forcibly uprooted thousands of its own citizens of one religion from their lawful homes), it also offers a rare, live, social-science experiment.
We stand at an interpretive divide. If Israel's critics are right, the Gaza withdrawal will improve Palestinian attitudes toward Israel, leading to an end of incitement and a steep drop in attempted violence, followed by a renewal of negotiations and a full settlement. Logic requires, after all, that if "occupation" is the problem, ending it, even partially, will lead to a solution.
But I forecast a very different outcome. Given that about 80% of Palestinian Arabs continue to reject Israel's very existence, signs of Israeli weakness, such as the forthcoming Gaza withdrawal, will instead inspire heightened Palestinian irredentism. Absorbing their new gift without gratitude, Palestinian Arabs will focus on those territories Israelis have not evacuated. (This is what happened after Israeli forces fled Lebanon.) The retreat will inspire not comity but a new rejectionist exhilaration, a greater frenzy of anti-Zionist anger, and a surge in anti-Israel violence.
Palestinian Arabs themselves are openly saying as much. A top Hamas figure in Gaza, Ahmed al-Bahar says "Israel has never been in such a state of retreat and weakness as it is today following more than four years of the intifada. Hamas's heroic attacks exposed the weakness and volatility of the impotent Zionist security establishment. The withdrawal marks the end of the Zionist dream and is a sign of the moral and psychological decline of the Jewish state. We believe that the resistance is the only way to pressure the Jews."
A Hamas spokesman, Sami Abu Zuhri says likewise that the withdrawal is "due to the Palestinian resistance operations. … and we will continue our resistance."
Others are more specific. At a mass rally in Gaza City last Thursday, about 10,000 Palestinian Arabs danced, sang, and chanted, "Today Gaza, tomorrow Jerusalem." The commander of Gaza's Popular Resistance Committees, Jamal Abu Samhadaneh announced Sunday, "We will move our cells to the West Bank" and warned "The withdrawal will not be complete without the West Bank and Jerusalem." The Palestinian Authority's Ahmed Qurei also asserts, "Our march will stop only in Jerusalem."
I used to be pro-disengagement. I was not happy about it, but it seemed like the most practical thing to do. And in many ways it still does, but if a unilateral move such as this is going to be seen as incentive to continue to use violence to affect political change it may end up being a huge mistake.
Likewise in Iraq, the coalition forces cannot and must not leave in a manner which suggests that they have been driven out by force. Withdrawal must be due diplomacy and a negotiated and accepted exit policy.
For now we'll have to wait and see how everything plays out. I am very concerned.
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The simple answer is no, it will not lead to peace. If we gave into all of the arab demands--to withdraw to the pre 1967 armistice lines--it would still not accomplish anything, since the PLO and arab terrorism started way before 1967, when all of the "disputed territories" were in arab hands.
They consider all of Israel to be occupied, and will be satisfied with nothing short of its total destruction. They have said this repeatedly.
It's no great mystery.
It is a terrible situation.
I've been reading your posts on this subject with interest, but haven't offered a comment because I don't know enough about it.
For what it's worth, I read an article the other day that suggested Sharon is making a purely military calculation. Logistically, it is difficult to continue protecting Israeli citizens both in Gaza and the West Bank. The withdrawal from Gaza will free up soldiers for service in the West Bank and elsewhere.
I don't know how much merit the argument has, it's just a different perspective on the issue you've addressed here.
Q
Hi Q,
I think that Sharon is a smart man, far smarter than many give him credit for. His nickname is The Bulldozer and there is a lot to that.
For my part I think that the argument you outlined makes a lot of sense and I think that it is close to Sharon's thoughts.
The real issue to me is the question of how this is taken. If the withdrawal is viewed as an invitation to more violence than it will be a huge mistake.
The problem is that like so many things it is impossible to forecast the future.
An op-ed piece that I read months ago really summed up well a lot of my feelings.
click here
Like Q I do not know much about the Palestinian Israeli conflict, besides the superficial stuff we read in the news.
As for the pull out of Iraq, many have said that there is little or no difference between the situation there and the war in Vietnam.
If that was the case a fast pullout would be a good thing, however the situations are not the same. Even though I am pretty much a pacifist and I would like a quick end to the war, I have to agree with Jack a slow diplomatic pull out would be better.
The Vietnamese were more concerned with the internal politics of their nation, the terrorists that now use Iraq as a proving ground are a larger global threat. A pull out has to be done so they do not feel like they won, this would give them a degree of legitimacy as most see the winners as legitimate whether this is the case or not.
Hi Bill,
It is nice to see someone who reads and thinks about the distinctions between the wars.
It is not just a matter of you taking a similar position to my own, although I appreciate it.
To a large extent I have been frustrated by the large numbers of people who refuse to think and just go with kneejerk reactions.
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