tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post3980148811845320840..comments2023-10-30T07:39:04.857-07:00Comments on Random Thoughts- Do They Have Meaning?: UN's "Unbiased Observer" Alleges Israeli War CrimesJack Steinerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16625864271071630940noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post-45557920678032816832009-03-27T07:44:00.000-07:002009-03-27T07:44:00.000-07:00I don't think so.I don't think so.Jack Steinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16625864271071630940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post-35580503929998182052009-03-27T06:50:00.000-07:002009-03-27T06:50:00.000-07:00Did you not get my response to your last comment?Did you not get my response to your last comment?Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post-80904161131947450412009-03-22T10:01:00.000-07:002009-03-22T10:01:00.000-07:00JA,That is not really an answer. What were the obj...JA,<BR/><BR/>That is not really an answer. What were the objectives of the war and were any of them accomplished?Jack Steinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16625864271071630940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post-90972675756298159482009-03-22T08:03:00.000-07:002009-03-22T08:03:00.000-07:00Sure, not everyone wants to admit they killed hund...Sure, not everyone wants to admit they killed hundreds of people and accomplished nothing. But Hamas is still in power and the rockets continue to launch. So what did they achieve?Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post-85664252305965250672009-03-21T09:20:00.000-07:002009-03-21T09:20:00.000-07:00I am not sure that there is agreement that it was ...I am not sure that there is agreement that it was a total failure.Jack Steinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16625864271071630940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post-19469267986103445322009-03-21T06:47:00.000-07:002009-03-21T06:47:00.000-07:00Jack,What would you propose Israel do to stop the ...Jack,<BR/><BR/><I>What would you propose Israel do to stop the rockets?</I><BR/><BR/>I'm not sure they can. The Gaza operation was a total failure anyway. Surely you're not arguing that a total failure that killed hundreds of people is better than doing nothing?Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post-59201081369614667752009-03-20T13:18:00.000-07:002009-03-20T13:18:00.000-07:00JA,What would you propose Israel do to stop the ro...JA,<BR/><BR/>What would you propose Israel do to stop the rockets?Jack Steinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16625864271071630940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post-32531103556692439562009-03-20T12:19:00.000-07:002009-03-20T12:19:00.000-07:00Jack,I'm certainly not arguing that the war crimes...Jack,<BR/><BR/>I'm certainly not arguing that the war crimes were unusual or more than expected. I was just pointing out that it's not just anti-semites and crazy people who are saying these things.<BR/><BR/>I also think that war crimes are more likely in such a conflict, just as massive civilian casualties were to be expected. Both of those are reasons I opposed this action, which achieved no significant positive results.Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post-36548075605914342512009-03-20T10:34:00.000-07:002009-03-20T10:34:00.000-07:00JA,I have seen that and I have seen the link that ...JA,<BR/><BR/>I have seen that and I have seen the link that Soccer Dad provided.<BR/><BR/>War is messy. War is violent. War is tragic and I never expect to read about a war that doesn't involve some sort of investigation of war crimes.<BR/><BR/>That doesn't mean that I am excusing them, but that during inhuman activities the likelihood of such events is high.<BR/><BR/>The question in my mind is how prevalent is it and what does the service do to prevent it from happening.<BR/><BR/>As I have said many times Israel is not infallible and they should be criticized. But the difference between Israel and Hamas is that you can criticize it without fear of bodily harm.<BR/><BR/>You can conduct investigations without concern for yourself or your family.<BR/><BR/>It is an imperfect world and we are never going to see a perfect war where no one gets hurt and no one dies.Jack Steinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16625864271071630940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post-82511155485366980742009-03-20T08:51:00.000-07:002009-03-20T08:51:00.000-07:00And Ynet's reporting that a number of active duty ...And Ynet's reporting that a number of active duty soldiers who served in Gaza are <A HREF="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3689388,00.html" REL="nofollow">emphatically denying</A> the charges.Soccer Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16142724823098073038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post-76070817738902005352009-03-20T06:01:00.000-07:002009-03-20T06:01:00.000-07:00Ha-aretz is reporting that some IDF soldiers offer...Ha-aretz is reporting that some IDF soldiers offer <A HREF="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html" REL="nofollow">similar testimony</A>.Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.com