tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post113756856772674168..comments2023-10-30T07:39:04.857-07:00Comments on Random Thoughts- Do They Have Meaning?: Don't Die Before We Kill YouJack Steinerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16625864271071630940noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post-1137685654764329572006-01-19T07:47:00.000-08:002006-01-19T07:47:00.000-08:00;);)Jack Steinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16625864271071630940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post-1137685524410294982006-01-19T07:45:00.000-08:002006-01-19T07:45:00.000-08:00By the way, we're about to elect a Conservative go...By the way, we're about to elect a Conservative government here. I'm thinking the US government could work something out with the new administration in Canada, and incarcerate prisoners in our far north. I bet they'd agree with you, that the weather constitutes cruel and unusual punishment.<BR/><BR/>But I'd want proof that these were actual bad guys — none of this holding them on suspicion that they might be suspected of idly thinking about possibly doing something Dubya disapproves of. Those people should at least be detained somewhere warm.stchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04018824090441668781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post-1137685202886296652006-01-19T07:40:00.000-08:002006-01-19T07:40:00.000-08:00There you go, that's my point exactly — "cru...There you go, that's my point exactly — "cruel and unusual" can refer to just about anything, even a seasonally cold day in the Great White North.stchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04018824090441668781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post-1137654024284900972006-01-18T23:00:00.000-08:002006-01-18T23:00:00.000-08:00Dovid,Well, what can you do.BF,That just blows me ...Dovid,<BR/><BR/>Well, what can you do.<BR/><BR/>BF,<BR/><BR/>That just blows me away.<BR/><BR/>Bill,<BR/><BR/>We are not all that far apart on this one. I agree that resuscitating someone so that they can be executed is beyond the pale.<BR/><BR/>MBS,<BR/><BR/>I don't know if I agree that the DP shows a lack of a value for life, but certainly a case could be made for that.<BR/><BR/>Q,<BR/><BR/>After reading your post about the weather I wonder if living in your neck of the woods during the winter wouldn't also be considered cruel and unusual. Brr.... ;)Jack Steinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16625864271071630940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post-1137615336221994852006-01-18T12:15:00.000-08:002006-01-18T12:15:00.000-08:00Good post, Jack. That "cruel and unusual punishme...Good post, Jack. That "cruel and unusual punishment" clause is so subjective - arguably it can mean just about anything.<BR/><BR/>But I totally agree with your interpretation. Going to extraordinary lengths to keep someone alive in order to execute him is self-evidently bizarre. Surely it ought to be regarded as cruel and unusual punishment.stchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04018824090441668781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post-1137596852953367472006-01-18T07:07:00.000-08:002006-01-18T07:07:00.000-08:00Personally I find execution repugnant, because one...Personally I find execution repugnant, because one execution of an innocent person is one to many, and sorry folks it has happened more than once.(see below)<BR/><BR/>http://www.justicedenied.org/executed.htm<BR/><BR/>That said to resuscitate him then execute him is barbarism.<BR/><BR/>How is this "value[ing] the sanctity of life"?Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09628454969899731552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post-1137594715421390092006-01-18T06:31:00.000-08:002006-01-18T06:31:00.000-08:00We've put two inmates through triple and quadruple...We've put two inmates through triple and quadruple by-pass surgery so they can be healthy when they get executed. One of them, against his will.bornfoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12908901525549894211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7082887.post-1137568704742236872006-01-17T23:18:00.000-08:002006-01-17T23:18:00.000-08:00And it irks me too..And it irks me too..Dovidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10974832521772141275noreply@blogger.com